[jdom-interest] Thoughts on...

[Brett McLaughlin]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Bentley" <gb at opengroup.org>
To: "Brett McLaughlin" <brett at newinstance.com>; <jdom-interest at jdom.org>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:49 AM
Subject: RE: [jdom-interest] Thoughts on...


> That does clear it up...!!!

Thought that it might ;-) Sorry... we probably need to make that more
obvious. However, please (please!) don't let that run you off... you have
some really good ideas, and I'd like to suck as many of them from you as we
can :) :)

Thanks,
Brett

>
> G.
>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:08 PM
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> Subject: Re: [jdom-interest] Thoughts on...
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Bentley" <gb at opengroup.org>
> To: "Jochen Kirn" <J.Kirn at gmx.de>; <jdom-interest at jdom.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [jdom-interest] Thoughts on...
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> > What a minute...I thought we are writing Java not C or C++ where forcing
> the
> > complier to place a value into another context is prevalent...and quite
> > acceptable...
> >
> > Adding "" + to the front of all my values is adding a level of
obfuscation
> > that I don't want and that shouldn't be encouraged.
> >
> > I can't believe that people can't see the usefulness behind this...the
> > discussions so far seem to be very centered on a visual inspection of
the
> > data.
> >
> > I would even go as far as saying that Element really should only allow
the
> > operations below and that the XMLOutputter should then convert the value
> to
> > a string since it's only then that it's relevant for it to become
> > "readable".  When a document is then read in, it is up to the
application
> to
> > determine what base types it wants to use, i.e. the reader would read
> > everything in as a String and the application would perform any
> conversions.
> >
> > Consider, a Document is designed to be a Java representation of any
> > document, not just XML and not just for visual purposes, for JDOM to be
>
> Actualy, this is the biggest problem in your argument. a Document is NOT
> designed to be a representation of a non-XML document. It's very clearly
> stated in our goals that we are aimed solely at XML now, and probably in
the
> future. We're not trying to provide a generic document model, but a
> XML-specific one. That may clear up a lot of things...
>
> -Brett
>
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