From jhunter at servlets.com Wed Jan 21 22:19:11 2015 From: jhunter at servlets.com (Jason Hunter) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:19:11 +0800 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health Message-ID: Just wondering if the list is alive. :) -jh- From olivier.jaquemet at jalios.com Thu Jan 22 01:50:10 2015 From: olivier.jaquemet at jalios.com (Olivier Jaquemet) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:50:10 +0100 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54C0C7D2.1090709@jalios.com> It probably depends on what you mean by alive ;) I would say that the list is working... On 22/01/2015 07:19, Jason Hunter wrote: > Just wondering if the list is alive. :) > > -jh- > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com > From cecil.new at ge.com Thu Jan 22 04:49:50 2015 From: cecil.new at ge.com (New, Cecil (GE Aviation, US)) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 12:49:50 +0000 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: <54C0C7D2.1090709@jalios.com> References: <54C0C7D2.1090709@jalios.com> Message-ID: <0F67D99907CED84EBFC9C8DD283CCB413F9F22EA@ALPMBAPA01.e2k.ad.ge.com> And the code must be working perfectly :-) Cecil New, IT Principal Technologist T:513-552-2604 -----Original Message----- From: jdom-interest-bounces at jdom.org [mailto:jdom-interest-bounces at jdom.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Jaquemet Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:50 AM To: Jason Hunter; Jdom interest Subject: Re: [jdom-interest] Checking list health It probably depends on what you mean by alive ;) I would say that the list is working... On 22/01/2015 07:19, Jason Hunter wrote: > Just wondering if the list is alive. :) > > -jh- > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.co > m > _______________________________________________ To control your jdom-interest membership: http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com From jdom at tuis.net Thu Jan 22 07:46:05 2015 From: jdom at tuis.net (Rolf Lear) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:46:05 -0500 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40ed20f54879a6ff68198be22451729b@tuis.net> I am overdue on a couple of things JDOM related. let's be clear, even though Cecil says: "And the code must be working perfectly :-)", given the volume of downloads, that is close to accurate. JDOM is currently very successful. Here's a hit list of things which I believe should be done: 1. Year-in-review update on some of the events that have happened: - Eclipse inclusion - IBM security audit - tutorial sites and FAQ translations - Java8 bugs - statistics of downloads and other activities from Maven, etc. 2. Plan for Java 8 nice-to-haves - direct JDOM 2.1 for Java8 support of streams, other niceties 3. XML 1.1 character validation 4. XPath 2.0 (Saxon support?) - xalan has gone fairly quiet As for feedback, the JDOM interest list has been quiet, but StackOverflow activity has been slow-but-steady. People are using JDOM. 190 questions asked in 2014 for JDOM: http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=created%3A2014+[jdom]+or+[jdom-2] Unfortunately, a lot of the usage is still on 1.x versions, about 50% of questions on StackOverflow are for older versions. Jason can maybe provide statistics for the base server downloads, but maven-central has seen the following (lets see if these links work... - if they don't I will respond later): http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom&chxr=1,0,174133&chds=0,174133&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:99538,103678,112177,111238,144999,135498,146573,138067,139843,135834,164626,174133&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 This download activity can be presented in the form of unique ID's too: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Unique%20IPs+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,65408&chds=0,65408&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:34454,37307,41365,39342,43554,46225,50756,48704,27497,23741,57305,65408&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 Downloads broken down by versions JDOM 1.x: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,156557&chds=0,156557&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:84755,89410,96793,94324,104023,108547,124381,124479,125471,120968,147666,156557&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 JDOM 2.x http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2&chxr=1,0,34490&chds=0,34490&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:12473,12092,12384,13980,34490,25304,20254,11196,11922,12315,14194,15143&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 With 2.0.5 specifically being: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2:2.0.5&chxr=1,0,32129&chds=0,32129&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:10330,9968,9832,11321,32129,22974,17695,8217,9039,9689,11355,12529&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 The bottom line is that form maven only, cumulatively, there have been about 200,000 downloads of JDOM 2.0.5 Rolf On 2015-01-22 01:19, Jason Hunter wrote: > Just wondering if the list is alive. :) > > -jh- > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com From canwilf at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 08:13:02 2015 From: canwilf at gmail.com (Canadian Wilf) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 08:13:02 -0800 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: <0F67D99907CED84EBFC9C8DD283CCB413F9F22EA@ALPMBAPA01.e2k.ad.ge.com> References: <54C0C7D2.1090709@jalios.com> <0F67D99907CED84EBFC9C8DD283CCB413F9F22EA@ALPMBAPA01.e2k.ad.ge.com> Message-ID: Number 5 is alive :) (Google it if you don't know what I'm talking about) On Jan 22, 2015 5:12 AM, "New, Cecil (GE Aviation, US)" wrote: > And the code must be working perfectly :-) > > Cecil New, IT Principal Technologist > T:513-552-2604 > > -----Original Message----- > From: jdom-interest-bounces at jdom.org [mailto: > jdom-interest-bounces at jdom.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Jaquemet > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:50 AM > To: Jason Hunter; Jdom interest > Subject: Re: [jdom-interest] Checking list health > > It probably depends on what you mean by alive ;) I would say that the list > is working... > > On 22/01/2015 07:19, Jason Hunter wrote: > > Just wondering if the list is alive. :) > > > > -jh- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To control your jdom-interest membership: > > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.co > > m > > > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slachance at cfl.rr.com Thu Jan 22 08:48:05 2015 From: slachance at cfl.rr.com (Scott LaChance) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:48:05 -0500 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: <40ed20f54879a6ff68198be22451729b@tuis.net> References: <40ed20f54879a6ff68198be22451729b@tuis.net> Message-ID: <0E2701EE-C17A-4798-A938-7BA1FF7FC543@cfl.rr.com> The IBM security audit sounds interesting. Can some elaborate on that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Rolf Lear wrote: > > I am overdue on a couple of things JDOM related. > > let's be clear, even though Cecil says: "And the code must be working perfectly :-)", given the volume of downloads, that is close to accurate. JDOM is currently very successful. > > Here's a hit list of things which I believe should be done: > > 1. Year-in-review update on some of the events that have happened: > - Eclipse inclusion > - IBM security audit > - tutorial sites and FAQ translations > - Java8 bugs > - statistics of downloads and other activities from Maven, etc. > 2. Plan for Java 8 nice-to-haves > - direct JDOM 2.1 for Java8 support of streams, other niceties > 3. XML 1.1 character validation > 4. XPath 2.0 (Saxon support?) - xalan has gone fairly quiet > > As for feedback, the JDOM interest list has been quiet, but StackOverflow activity has been slow-but-steady. People are using JDOM. 190 questions asked in 2014 for JDOM: http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=created%3A2014+[jdom]+or+[jdom-2] > > Unfortunately, a lot of the usage is still on 1.x versions, about 50% of questions on StackOverflow are for older versions. > > Jason can maybe provide statistics for the base server downloads, but maven-central has seen the following (lets see if these links work... - if they don't I will respond later): > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom&chxr=1,0,174133&chds=0,174133&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:99538,103678,112177,111238,144999,135498,146573,138067,139843,135834,164626,174133&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 > > This download activity can be presented in the form of unique ID's too: > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Unique%20IPs+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,65408&chds=0,65408&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:34454,37307,41365,39342,43554,46225,50756,48704,27497,23741,57305,65408&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 > > > > Downloads broken down by versions > > JDOM 1.x: > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,156557&chds=0,156557&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:84755,89410,96793,94324,104023,108547,124381,124479,125471,120968,147666,156557&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 > > JDOM 2.x > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2&chxr=1,0,34490&chds=0,34490&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:12473,12092,12384,13980,34490,25304,20254,11196,11922,12315,14194,15143&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 > > With 2.0.5 specifically being: > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2:2.0.5&chxr=1,0,32129&chds=0,32129&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:10330,9968,9832,11321,32129,22974,17695,8217,9039,9689,11355,12529&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 > > The bottom line is that form maven only, cumulatively, there have been about 200,000 downloads of JDOM 2.0.5 > > Rolf > >> On 2015-01-22 01:19, Jason Hunter wrote: >> Just wondering if the list is alive. :) >> >> -jh- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To control your jdom-interest membership: >> http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com From jdom at tuis.net Thu Jan 22 10:33:50 2015 From: jdom at tuis.net (Rolf Lear) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:33:50 -0500 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health In-Reply-To: <0E2701EE-C17A-4798-A938-7BA1FF7FC543@cfl.rr.com> References: <40ed20f54879a6ff68198be22451729b@tuis.net> <0E2701EE-C17A-4798-A938-7BA1FF7FC543@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <3191fe57e132ab7821c00b94361044b8@tuis.net> Here's more detail on the IBM security audit: In late 2013 IBM contacted the mailing list here: http://markmail.org/message/ufvpxiblhcgdlpoc We responded to them, and got the full report of the vulnerabilities they had identified in JDOM. This scan was done as part of IBM's standard processes when using open source software, and part of their commitment to the open source community. JDOM 2.0.5 ========== They identified 2 basic issues in JDOM 2.0.5 appearing in a number of different places: Vulnerability CWE Link Severity API Call Line Number Trace (right click->Show/Hide Comments to view) File Containing Vulnerability PathTraversal Weakness ID: 73 HIGH java.io.File. 180 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\contrib\beans\JDOMBean.java PathTraversal Weakness ID: 73 HIGH java.io.File. 236 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\contrib\beans\JDOMBean.java PrivilegeEscalation Weakness ID: 266 MEDIUM java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 1357 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\test\cases\output\AbstractTestOutputter.java PrivilegeEscalation Weakness ID: 266 MEDIUM java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 1357 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\test\cases\output\AbstractTestOutputter.java PrivilegeEscalation Weakness ID: 266 MEDIUM java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 1357 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\test\cases\output\AbstractTestOutputter.java PrivilegeEscalation Weakness ID: 266 MEDIUM java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 1357 Trace in comment C:\jdom\2.0.5\Java\org\jdom2\test\cases\output\AbstractTestOutputter.java (... and 38 additional places where AbstractTestOutputter had the same reflection problem). I consider these issues to be 'mostly' benign. The "HIGH severity" JDOMBean file problem is in the Contrib area of JDOM, and not in the core. The actual vulnerability is because it has a static File instance which is vulnerable in places where the JVM is compromized and someone 'hacks' the static location, leading to the loading of unexpected content. I resolved the issue in this commit: https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/commit/c0f7b99d953730413da41ccc8028cd7120e45ec2 (which was duplicated in the master branch too). The fix I employed was simply to remove the instance field, and be done with it. It is unsupported code, and for example purposes only. This was a decision made for the 2.x release, that contrib was completely unsupported. The remaining issues in 2.0.5 are related to a reflection hack I did in the JUnit test cases to help 'simplify' the harness. The fix I employed was to rename the methods that were otherwise called with reflection, and instead call the methods directly by name. You can see the fix here: https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/commit/7cb87783b7d023dcfa77f742fe29bfe6b8be220b Again, this issue is minor - it is in the JUnit test cases, and has been resolved without impact at all. Note that although these fixes are in the source code, there has not been a release of JDOM 2.x since then. These fixes will not impact any code that is shipped. The code is not in maven, nor in the binary distribution. It is in the support code only. Older versions ============== In addition to testing JDOM 2.0.5, they also tested 1.1.2 and 1.0. The 1.0 version has the same issues as 1.1.2. JDOM 1.1.2 has the following identified issues: Potential privilidge escalation in JDOMException when reporting the parent exception: https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/blob/jdom-1.x/core/src/java/org/jdom/JDOMException.java#L353 Similarly here: https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/blob/jdom-1.x/core/src/java/org/jdom/JDOMException.java#L328 Note that the above code is not in JDOM 2.x at all, and relates to the history of Java where the cause of exceptions was not part of the Java API. The final issues in JDOM 1.1.2 is related to the use of reflection to identify and early Java versions without JAXP: java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 104 C:\jdom\1.1.2\Java\src\java\org\jdom\adapters\CrimsonDOMAdapter.java java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 616 C:\jdom\1.1.2\Java\src\java\org\jdom\input\SAXBuilder.java java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke 460 C:\jdom\1.1.2\Java\src\java\org\jdom\output\Format.java The code links are: https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/blob/jdom-1.x/core/src/java/org/jdom/adapters/CrimsonDOMAdapter.java#L104 https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/blob/jdom-1.x/core/src/java/org/jdom/input/SAXBuilder.java#L616 https://github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/blob/jdom-1.x/core/src/java/org/jdom/output/Format.java#L460 Note that the Format issue related to needing to compile 1.1.x on old versions of Java (1.2, and 1.3) which did not have the NIO Charset classes. Rolf. On 2015-01-22 11:48, Scott LaChance wrote: > The IBM security audit sounds interesting. Can some elaborate on > that. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Rolf Lear wrote: >> >> I am overdue on a couple of things JDOM related. >> >> let's be clear, even though Cecil says: "And the code must be >> working perfectly :-)", given the volume of downloads, that is close >> to accurate. JDOM is currently very successful. >> >> Here's a hit list of things which I believe should be done: >> >> 1. Year-in-review update on some of the events that have happened: >> - Eclipse inclusion >> - IBM security audit >> - tutorial sites and FAQ translations >> - Java8 bugs >> - statistics of downloads and other activities from Maven, etc. >> 2. Plan for Java 8 nice-to-haves >> - direct JDOM 2.1 for Java8 support of streams, other niceties >> 3. XML 1.1 character validation >> 4. XPath 2.0 (Saxon support?) - xalan has gone fairly quiet >> >> As for feedback, the JDOM interest list has been quiet, but >> StackOverflow activity has been slow-but-steady. People are using >> JDOM. 190 questions asked in 2014 for JDOM: >> http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=created%3A2014+[jdom]+or+[jdom-2] >> >> Unfortunately, a lot of the usage is still on 1.x versions, about >> 50% of questions on StackOverflow are for older versions. >> >> Jason can maybe provide statistics for the base server downloads, >> but maven-central has seen the following (lets see if these links >> work... - if they don't I will respond later): >> >> >> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom&chxr=1,0,174133&chds=0,174133&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:99538,103678,112177,111238,144999,135498,146573,138067,139843,135834,164626,174133&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 >> >> This download activity can be presented in the form of unique ID's >> too: >> >> >> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Unique%20IPs+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,65408&chds=0,65408&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:34454,37307,41365,39342,43554,46225,50756,48704,27497,23741,57305,65408&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 >> >> >> >> Downloads broken down by versions >> >> JDOM 1.x: >> >> >> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom&chxr=1,0,156557&chds=0,156557&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:84755,89410,96793,94324,104023,108547,124381,124479,125471,120968,147666,156557&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 >> >> JDOM 2.x >> >> >> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2&chxr=1,0,34490&chds=0,34490&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:12473,12092,12384,13980,34490,25304,20254,11196,11922,12315,14194,15143&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 >> >> With 2.0.5 specifically being: >> >> >> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=800x200&chco=326A9E&chxt=x,y&chtt=Downloads+Over+the+Last+12+Months+For+org.jdom:jdom2:2.0.5&chxr=1,0,32129&chds=0,32129&chxs=1N*s*&chls=3&chm=o,0066FF,0,-1,10,0&chd=t:10330,9968,9832,11321,32129,22974,17695,8217,9039,9689,11355,12529&chxl=0:|Jan2014|Feb2014|Mar2014|Apr2014|May2014|Jun2014|Jul2014|Aug2014|Sep2014|Oct2014|Nov2014|Dec2014 >> >> The bottom line is that form maven only, cumulatively, there have >> been about 200,000 downloads of JDOM 2.0.5 >> >> Rolf >> >>> On 2015-01-22 01:19, Jason Hunter wrote: >>> Just wondering if the list is alive. :) >>> >>> -jh- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To control your jdom-interest membership: >>> >>> http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To control your jdom-interest membership: >> >> http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com From garydgregory at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 03:58:43 2015 From: garydgregory at gmail.com (Gary Gregory) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 06:58:43 -0500 Subject: [jdom-interest] Checking list health Message-ID: Right, it's working, just not much traffic it seems. Gary?
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It probably depends on what you mean by alive ;) I would say that the list is working... On 22/01/2015 07:19, Jason Hunter wrote: > Just wondering if the list is alive. :) > > -jh- > > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com > _______________________________________________ To control your jdom-interest membership: http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr at yourhost.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: